Part 4
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Fast breaking news in the desperate search for little Kyron Horman. As we speak, cops in Oregon have returned to the scene of the crime. And they are once again searching high and low in the area near Kyron`s school.
This adorable 7-year-old boy vanished from inside his school hallway more than a month ago now. And tonight, local reports say cops are questioning anyone in the area who owns a pickup truck and on top of that, they`re allegedly searching for a certain family -- certain family?
Could this be a major break in the case? Meanwhile the walls continue to crumble around Kyron`s stepmom. His biological mother now says Terri Horman, the stepmother wasn`t just involved, bio-mom insists the stepmom carefully planned and plotted the kidnapping.
Listen to what she told NBC`s "Today" show.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think Terri Horman planned to do something?
DESIREE YOUNG, KYRON`S MOTHER: Something that Terri Horman -- oh, yes, without a doubt. I think it was very planned.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ahead of time?
YOUNG: Oh, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We absolutely believe that Terri Horman is responsible for Kyron`s disappearance.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Talk about not holding back. There are plenty of allegations. But is there any proof? Remember, Terri Horman is not considered a suspect or a person of interest.
I`m bringing back my fabulous panel, former police officer Marc Harrold. We begin with you. What would make cops return to the scene and look for a certain family? That is bizarre to me.
MARC HARROLD, FORMER POLICE OFFICER: Well, it does seem like they have some new information. I`m not exactly sure what it is. But given that and given the fact they may have already had this information, they just did not release that they were looking for a particular family. But it sounds like with returning to the scene, some physical evidence they`re looking for, the pickup truck and actually saying that they are looking for certain people, they probably do have some information.
But I don`t have any way of knowing.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I`m sure they have information, Harold.
Mark Eiglarsh, I guess what I`m getting at is, let`s use some deductive reasoning. Let`s take out our pipe and our Sherlock Holmes hat and try to figure out what this is all about. Because --
EIGLARSH: Right, because I own one of those.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- yes of course, you should.
EIGLARSH: I`ve got one.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: You`ve got a stepmom here who purportedly, according to documents that have been filed, allegedly tried to hire a hit man to rub out her husband who fled the home.
EIGLARSH: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then you have her supposedly starting up an affair with some guy that she met after the little boy went missing. And texting him sexy text messages as well as graphic sexual images. And now we`re hearing they`re looking for a certain family? That doesn`t match the previous two things we`ve heard.
EIGLARSH: Right. And first and foremost, she was the last one to see the boy. Let`s start there. Jane, they don`t have to call her a person of interest. They don`t have to call her a suspect. She is the number one. She`s the one they`re looking at.
The problem, however, is if what we`ve heard is all of the evidence, while it looks to the average person like she`s really, really, really guilty, it`s not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This would get dismissed in court because there`s another hypothesis of innocence that could be put out there.
So they need more in this case, Jane.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: They sure do.
Lynn, Canada, your question or thought, ma`am?
LYNN, CANADA (via telephone): It`s great to talk you, Jane.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you.
LYNN: My comment is, it seems -- what`s the connection with her son being sent back with apparently the child`s father or grandparents? Then her husband -- she has a hit man out on her husband. And this little boy is gone missing. Has the police ever questioned her son?
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I think -- I think that`s very interesting that you mention that, because, yes, Terri Horman has a 16-year-old son from a previous marriage. And that boy had reportedly been living with the two people you`re looking at there, Terri and Kyron`s biological dad.
And then at some point in the recent past, that 16-year-old reportedly left the home and went to live somewhere else, perhaps with his biological father. We don`t know.
I think it is interesting that all these changes were happening within the household shortly before, Dr. Dale Archer, little Kyron disappears.
ARCHER: Yes. And I think that that we can all link that together, because first of all, she tries to hire a hit man, allegedly and that didn`t work. So then she turns to an easier target that would be Kyron and she could handle that on her own.
And then after that breaks, there`s the sex thing to Michael Cook. But that`s not about sex. She wanted to use him for something and we don`t know what that is. And it probably got short circuited before she could develop it.
But this is a woman that clearly uses men and she uses sex, or sexual favors, or a promise of that in order to get them to do what she wants. And I think Kaine probably fell into that category early on. But then I think when the child was born, the daughter -- 18-month-old daughter was born, that he started pulling away.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.
ARCHER: And that`s when she broke narcissistically.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Doting housewife or evil stepmom, initially Terri Horman was painted as the perfect stepmom, always happy, involved in Kyron`s life. Now Kyron`s biological mother is telling a different story.
Listen to this. Check this out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
YOUNG: Kyron became increasingly unhappy about not spending time with me. He wanted to come and live with us. Several times he would just break down and just sob, because he wanted to stay.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So Mark Eiglarsh, now we`re hearing that the little boy was not happy living with the stepmother and that he would sob when he had to leave his biological mother`s home.
EIGLARSH: I can`t imagine what that must be doing for the family to think that he wasn`t happy. And if they had heard that, they could have done something. You know, it`s not fair for them to -- to make themselves feel that way but I`m sure that that`s on their minds.
ARCHER: You know what?
EIGLARSH: It`s really unfortunate.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead.
ARCHER: You know, I just want to say that kids are very, very intuitive. And so clearly Kyron knew that something was up. Things weren`t right and kids sense that. They may not be able to verbalize why, so I think that that explains why he was feeling the way that he did.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: An eyewitness has come forward. Terri Horman is accused of trying to kidnap her own daughter while her husband was out working. Tonight the owner of the gym is speaking out. Listen to this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BOB BRIEDE, XTREME EDGE GYM: Her behavior was definitely suspicious, and I felt that it justified making a phone call to the authorities. Somebody needed to know about that just in case there was something there, you know. I sure wouldn`t want two kids to go missing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Just to explain that, according to Kyron`s dad, when he was working out at the gym, he left his little daughter at the gym day care and that`s when Terri purportedly came in and was trying to find out when he would be working out and he believed that was to snatch the child.
All right. Stay right where you are. The latest on Mel Gibson`s alleged meltdown, right after the break.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: More alleged Mad Mel audiotapes, another shocking reporting hits the web. And I mean shocking, people. Oksana Grigorieva says the spitting mad, lunatic screaming at her on this tape is her hot shot Hollywood ex, Mel Gibson. Oksana who has an 8-month-old baby daughter with Mel fruitlessly tries to calm the furious man who`s berating her and he goes ballistic, ranting, panting and threatening to burn the house down.
Check this out from RadarOnline.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How dare you act like a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I swear I`ll burn the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) house down. You`re a pain in my (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Stop being that.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, boy. Police are investigating Mel for domestic violence due to Oksana`s claims that he punched her in the face, breaking her teeth which he denied. Is Oksana`s dentist the key to this case?
And now, a new report out saying that dentist has photo graphic proof; apparently, allegedly, pictures of a battered, bruised, broken, ashamed Oksana.
CNN has not been able to verify the voice on these tapes is in fact Mel. We have reached out to Gibson`s camp. So far, they have not commented. They`re always invited on the show at any time to tell their side.
Straight out to Dylan Howard; Dylan, RadarOnline is all over the story. What is the very latest?
DYLAN HOWARD, RADARONLINE: Well, we reported today exclusively on RadarOnline more details, chilling details, Jane, about what happened in the immediate aftermath to when Mel Gibson hit his baby mama Oksana Grigorieva.
Now we`re told Oksana ran out into the backyard. Mel disappeared into his bedroom. She ran back into the house searching for her key so she could escape the Malibu mansion and that`s when Mel Gibson, according to the statement that Oksana Grigorieva provided to law enforcement official, Mel began waving gun in her face.
He chased her outside. As she got into the car and he said, "I know one quick way to get you out of here." Another alleged death threat from Mel Gibson directed to his baby mama, hot off the heels of more explosive audio recordings in which he`s heard threatening to blow down the house but not until she performs oral sex on him first -- disgusting stuff.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. I have to say HLN has not been able to independently confirm anything about this gun. Police aren`t confirming it. You`re the only ones reporting it.
And Mel Gibson`s camp has pointed out in the past that Oksana did not call 911. So how did you get this information?
HOWARD: We got this from sources closely connected to the law enforce management investigation probing that January case. And we are not the only ones to report that it ought to be noted, Jane. The gun claim is one of just a series of claims that Oksana Grigorieva is making.
But interestingly enough, these are claims that she has leveled to the Los Angeles Sheriff`s Department.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I have to say, listening to these tapes, if it is Mel the thing that strikes me is sort of underlying misogyny and hostility toward women throughout all of it. What are your thoughts without getting too graphic?
HOWARD: Well, these are crazed rantings. I don`t think we`ve ever heard anything like this, especially from the ilk of a Hollywood A-Lister. That`s what makes this so frightening.
Now, clearly Mel Gibson is aggrieved (ph) in all of those. We don`t know why he hasn`t come forward to provide any reasonable explanation. What we think, perhaps maybe he did.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And we`ve got to leave it right there. Dylan, you`re fabulous. Thank you.
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